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old comments from 2004

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Mani1 claims that most people of the city speak Persian. I have removed it, unless we can be pointed to a source of the claim. This is rather important since we wan't to make sure we don't sacrifice accuracy in favor of one kind of nationalism or another. roozbeh 13:05, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)

HAMEDAN NOT HAMADAN

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hamedan in correct and hamadan is incorrect

all people of hamedan city speak persian

but in the north part of province their languages is -torki- and in the south of hamedan province their language is -lori-

Whoever wrote "Hamedan" is correct not "Hamadan". You need to educate yourself a little better about this subject. "Hamedan" is Turkish corruption of "Hamadan", in the same way that "Azer" is Turkish corruption of "Azar". But the name "Hamadan" is directly from "Hagmatana" and that is from Old Persian, and there is no confusions or doubts about this fact in scholarship.
It is true that "Hamadan" may be closer to the original pronounciation of the original name of the city. But for the purposes of an encyclopedic article, the modern pronounciation should be used (in the same sense that we refer to persian language as "Farsi" not "Parsi" Persian_language.) Anecdotally, as someone who lived in Hamedan for more than 20 years, I've never heard a resident of the city pronounce it as Hamadan. (I've occasionally, but not often, heard it pronounced that way from other Persian speakers not from Hamedan.)
I also removed the claim that the tomb of "Esther and Mordechai" is in Hamadan, for obvious reasons. First and foremost, Eshter and Mordechai do not exist in any authentic historical documents other than religious texts of the Jews. Even many Jewish scholars accept that the story is probably a didactic one and not an actual historical event. There has been extensive academic debate on this subject and there is no evidence to prove the historical authenticity of the story of Esther. Secondly, even if the story of Esther was true, on what basis is it claimed that their tombs are in the city of Hamadan ?!!
Are you serious? Are you claiming that the tomb doesn't exist or that remains of "Esther and Mordechai" are not in it? I've "seen" the monument iteself, although I've never been inside. Again, anecdotally, every native resident of the city refers to the monument as Tomb of Esther and Mordechai. It simply does not have any other name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:0:1003:1019:8991:CC48:A987:3D84 (talk) 16:32, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hamedani Persians pronouce the name of this city Hemedan! with E Tehrani Persians pronouce it as Hamedun! Other Persians pronouce it as Hamedan!

Hamadan (as it written in article) is not correct and is not used by persians!

94.184.141.134 (talk) 04:30, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Hamadān is NOT correct. I am a Hemadānian. Non of native speakers in Hamedan or even in Iran, doesn't pronounce Hamadān! Source of this pronunciation in article hasn't any historical source! پسرک کبریت فروش (talk) 18:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Article should be renamed to Hamedan as it is pronounced Hamédan.24.4.242.48 (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Read Wikipedia:COMMOMNAME. This is the English Wikipedia, not the Persian one. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:40, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hamadan history needs to be expanded

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  • Sassanid period? Is this Ecbatana? The Britannica is hinting that it was suburb. The Arabs mention the standard Garrison settlement in Hamadhan.

Iranian websites say its Ecbatana itself? for example....Today's Hamadan is what is left of Ecbatana?

This garbled text at the end of the history must be written in proper english and then placed in the correct position by whoever inserted it: "the most famost thing in hamedan is :katibe ganjname .the khashaiar .raine of Iran in 2500 years a go crit it . the mianing of this written is: A great god is Ahuramazda," ........etc. --AssegaiAli (talk) 11:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic name origin of Hamadan

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The name of Hamadan before the Arabic conquest of Persia was Ecbatana & this name was changed by Arabs to Hamadan according to An Arabic tribe that settled there and thereby the origin of the city name is Arabic & its quite neccessary to be mentioned.193.6.158.33 20:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tomb of Esther and Mordechai

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The artical mentions "A traditional tomb housing the biblical Esther and her uncle Mordechai is located in Hamadan." Read the biblical text (Esther 2:7). Mordechai was Esthers COUSIN, not her uncle.

That Mordechai is really buried here is highly doubtful. According to Jewish tradition, Mordechai went up to the Land of Israel at the end of the 70 year exile, and lived there for many years, serving as a member of the Great Assembly. There is no record of his returning to Persia, or of his bones being take there for buriel. 71.190.25.204 (talk) 14:30, 11 January 2011 (UTC) Text has been edited to reflect the above concerns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giorgies (talk • contribs) 14:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request to add photos

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Ali Sadr Cave, Hamadan Province, Iran,siamak sabet
Ali Sadr Cave, Hamadan Province, Iran

siamak sabet 22:59, 24 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siamaksabet (talk • contribs)

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over two weeks. History was also an absolute mess with multiple cut-and-paste moves so a histmerge was required. Jenks24 (talk) 13:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Hamedan → Hamadan – According to reliable sources in English, the correct name of this city is Hamadan. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC) In fact 04:59, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider this false redirection, as well. Thanks. In fact 05:21, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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